com | Forums. If you were having trouble maintaining power, your satisfaction bar. 225 coal/sec. #1 is Solar Panels. Factorio. Pipes have limited flow and heat exchangers. 42 * 0. 12. by Nexela » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:18 am. 2 million of steam for each single mass ejection. like a governor on an engine. Steam engines are the most basic electricity generator, available to the player at the start of the game. 9, 9. Let’s take a look at the easiest set-up. I don't remember if that's available yet, but that's the usual Seablock answer. bug_rep. Re: Problem With Steam Engine system. Since an Offshore Pump only outputs 1200 water/sec, using 4 will leave you 144 water/sec short, so you need 5 Offshore Pumps. In factorio you can make them out of two comparative combinators, each set to input A>0 output A=1, with their output wired to the other's input (so 2 pieces of colored wire that don't connect to each other. For the bottom row you just need to turn the middle boiler to match the other two (180 degrees). Although it is possible to get energy out of mismatched systems, it's very wasteful and there's no real reason to do it. 1 Added check to see if generator uses fluid. They are significantly more powerful than steam engines (1 steam turbine is equal to ~10. 67 items/s (Fast belt throughput) / 900 KW (Steam engine output) = ~118. Place the offshore pump near a body of water in the green arrows and connect it to the boiler (directly for now). 15. → . However, the new boilers use a LOT more fuel than the old ones, to the point where inserters cannot keep up. Possible causes are: 1) water not getting from lake to boiler. Yours and the original would be 30 steam engines at 53 tiles wide, 9 tiles long, which would be 15. 1. Pulling from a single belt in the middle of a 4 belt group. 13+. Factorio. Total raw 7 + 31. 1:20:40 in . 2016 v 9. To even reach the maximum available performance for steam turbines, you need to use nuclear power and. Install Cheat Engine. If this bar is full then the engine/turbine is currently getting enough steam to run at full power if needed. factorio. So: the boiler can heat 1. 10mw is the absolute cap of the building. Factorio. Once you do so, your Factorio steam engine should be back working in. >Make sure your have power lines connected, and that they lead somewhere. 5 (Boiler efficiency) * 26. Full steam power grid with perfect ratios:1 water pump20 boilers40 steam engines (2 per boiler)- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. ago. • 4 yr. 5) / 0. 3) water not getting from boiler to steam engine. Showing 1 - 15 of 32 comments. Ecleptomania • 6 yr. which can supply four steam engines each, for 21. This could be one of the cases in which this has happened. Search the tags for mining, smelting, and advanced production blueprints. Mine is probably cheaper to make but it also may be less sencical over all. 510MJ/s So every chemical plant can support (10. Note that the steam generators are connected to the main grid, as well as the inserters for the. Steam engines are notoriously bad in the lategame, mainly because they don't scale well, steam engine power plants can usually grow in only one direction. Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. Put a pump between the boilers and the steam engines. Isolate Steam-engine based electricity network. Connect the Steam Engine to the side that emits Steam. 8 MW (36. 1 Offshore Pump provides enough water for 20 boilers. Factorio is a construction and management simulation game focused on resource-gathering with real-time strategy and survival elements and influences from the BuildCraft and. 11. And another long delay after the pump tuns off and the last engine runs out of steam. multiply that by the amount of steam engines and you have the total amount of items you need each second. . Factorio version: 0. Well, when it comes to steam engines a power switch may actually be preferable since that is instant. If that's all you need then you don't need to do anything, boilers and steam engines will only work if there is a need for them and solar power has the priority. 0 per second (I verified with test below. 8 MW instead of 900 kW. Power generators (such as steam engine setups and solar farms. The outputs of two boiler lines are combined directly into pipes. Saying that, your idea would actually be better than his current design. Share your. Reading the content of the top-right chest and connecting it with the power-switch will let you connect the power to your steam engines when the power in the accumulator drops to 20% and disconnect the switch when the power hit 100%. 0, Steam Turbines were added to the game. Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:03 pm. After being distributed via pipes, steam can be used to generate electricity via steam engines and steam turbines. If you want to prioritize Accumulators (at night), please see the Usages of the Logic System for an easy way to connect them to the circuit network. And now you have how many items a single steam engine uses per second. More details about each method are available on the Power production page. Games are divided. Possible causes are: 1) water not getting from lake to boiler. There apears to be problems when trying to heat fluids (that arn't water) to power steam engines that the maximum heat capacity of a fluid seems to be based on the Maximum temperature of fluid. Alternatively, implement an internal cap or filter for the temperature, so that steam of temperatures >165°C is reduced to 165°C in its energy. Steam engines only generate as much power as needed. Steam engines are the most basic electricity generator, available to the player at the start of the game. Back in the day, you could power steam engines with any liquid, because any liquid could be heated in boilers. Boilers use carbon based fuel to produce 60 steam per second at a temperature of 165 C. Last edited by SeikakuOtosan ; Aug 26, 2020 @ 5:16am. 2. If you’re looking at a steam engine/turbine: “Available Performance” is how much power that device could produce out of its theoretical maximum. Edit: so 1:2 boiler to steam engine ratio to answer your question more specifically. Post your ideas and suggestions how to improve the game. Help with Steam Engines SOLVED. Coal would give you the current temperature steam, wood less, solid fuel more -- this would be where engines would cap out --, rocket fuel more still, and nuclear fuel would get you 500C steam outta a boiler,. dragonsphotoworks Aug 17, 2020 @ 12:14am. Don't join these pipe networks together. If that's so, remove all the middle pieces except the one going into the steam engines and the one coming from the pump Temp is 100 so is going through the boilers. Factorio automatically adjusts power production to your needs. Its about Steam TURBINES combied with BOILERS. A turbine can use 60 liquid/second, a steam engine can use 30/s. 5) / 0. by Tekky » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:08 pm. Set Enable condition to [charge level] < 10. >If you're only drawing a little power, the engine will only produce a little. It was working and powering everything. So if you are using 1800 KW of power, then 2 engines will use up 60 units of steam per second. 1 Downloaded by: 1. Steam engines (and boilers) only produce the necessary amount (up to their maximum capacity) so when your factory uses less power, it will produce less, saving coal in the process as well. Adding lights to the stranded accu makes it cycle steam on earlier. Water goes into either of the long ends of the boiler. 1 offshore pump will provide water for 20 boilers. Make sure the water intake of the boilers is inline with the output of the offshore pump and that the engine or steam pipe to the engine is not connected to the water supply but to the steam output of the boilers. Basically like this: BEPE (B=Boiler, E=Engine, P=Pipe) The pipe isnt necessary but it allows you to easily place power poles to catch all of your engines. 3. So for the top row you just need to turn the left and middle one to match the boiler on the right (180 degrees). They don't work like the old boilers. You will be mining resources, researching technologies, building infrastructure, automating. 4) electricity pole not positioned correctly to next to steam engine. One boiler produces 60 steam, so it'll be making enough steam to power all three. 8MW power consumption, but at 50% efficiency, so the output is only 900kw (same as steam engine use). Gregorovitch 17. Share. 2. For nuclear steam a storage tank can hold 2415MW worth of power. Since the geometry of the engines does suggest a multi-cylinder arrangement, it is quite possible that the Factorio steam engine is intended to imitate a compound steam as used in stationary applications for its efficiency. Steam is the only fluid that cannot be stored in barrels. Horoai Apr 24, 2017 @ 12:51pm. Inconsistent power output with steam engines. Now set the circuit condition on the first inserter to only work when the accumulator charge is < 10%, and copy that setting over to the rest of the inserters. 4 Boilers + 8 Steam Engines. No amount of solar panels can replace a boiler and two engines. 53 engines. Stealth Apr 4, 2016 @ 8:35am. 62K users. 2k = 9000 °C units of water per second. Steam Engine vs Turbine. 2. . Changelog: 0. 15] Blueprint for. 2MW, 32. Because you are not using their full output. I Created this gif. Power switch remains OFF while the accumulators have more than 30% (I don't want the steam engines coming on at night unless they really need to) 2. Connect an electric pole and you got power. Your solar power is nearly enough to satisfy all of your power consumption, so there's no reason to use any additional steam power. But it also says that electricity requested is over 50 mW but in only producing 1. Water starts at 15 degrees. Rags-to-riches survival games are a dime a dozen these days, but Factorio’s wild ambition and open-ended format takes the potential for complexity up several notches. Share your designs. This saves resources and is a valuable feature of these engines. 0 favorites Assemblers. 3 favorites Squirreltorio 2. 9, and 9. Everthing exept for the steam engine T1 is removed and the steam engine T1 is changed to have the same stats as the one in PY. by MeduSalem » Sun May 07, 2017 6:57 pm. Plus accumlators can only output 300kw of energy a second. Boilers output a maximum of 60 steam per second. 15. You want to use 1 water pump with 10 steam engines and 14 steam boilers to generate the perfect amount. 17. 12, please let me know the following information:-Was the current steam engine build applicable up to . ). That's more than two such pairs of 1/20/40 pump/boiler/steam engine arrays. So if you have a 10Mw steam engine bank, and you only need 1. Advertisement Coins. Instead of the boilers getting half the energy of the coal, now the boilers get 100% of the energy, but coal only has half as much as it did in the last update. Share your designs. 63. Heat exchangers produce ~103 steam with a temperature of 500°C every second. It is going to start oscillating if you have enough engines but it will not flicker. 15 when it had 50% efficiency, u had to input 3. I'd prefer steam turbines over steam engines even if you're using them just with boilers having 165°C. 8 MW (36. That’s where Loewchen. Whether the player is a beginner or an experienced miner, there's a steam. Steam requires either coal or solid fuel to run. 8 MW. 3. The game engine itself is pure C++ because of (1) performance reasons and (2) it's the programming language the devs are most familiar with. Factorio version: 1. 4MW and 21. Factorio is a game in which you build and maintain factories. I feel like my entire factory is moving slowly, my fast inserters are extremely slow and my mines are barely producing anything. Oil-fired power plants have different generating capacity depending on the fuel used, producing 16. Connect it to the rest of network via Power switch. by Zerias » Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:34 am. e. All good from there. Nine steam engines for about four miners while the one steam engine tried to power the iron and coal mines, the assembly lines, the labs, the radars. No need to produce 100W if all your buildings only consume 50W. Plus one of your boilers is around the wrong way (bottom most, its steam output is facing the right instead of the left) One slight work around the 1x boiler -> 2x Steam Engine is over producing steam then piping steam into storage tanks, then pipe it to Steam Engines (it's creates a steady flow like a cache) #6. But I seem to have something weird going on with the spaceship speed. As I haven't played Factorio at all since v0. 17. Water wheels, windmills, steam boats and cargo freighters, more variants of steam generators, steam powered mechs/robots, Trebuchets. e. Complex numbers need decisions and compromises which is real engineering. The steam engines on the picture, have sufficient steam, they have a great electricity demand, yet they still for some reason stop working once in a while. for it to work, it must have heated water and an electric pole leading to where you need the power. Copy to Clipboard. [deleted] • 8 yr. 17. My offshore pump is connected to 1 boiler. < 1 2 >. You will be mining resources, researching technologies, building infrastructure, automating production and fighting enemies. Btw you can overlap the engines some 40% - only the middle of the 5 tiles counts for efficiency. Add a buffer chest so it always has a backup of fuel. 76 GW. Yeah, the clouds are what threw me off. I have 5 turbines connected to 15 coal fired boilers which are all running as normal and are providing an adequate amount of steam for the turbines however no matter what I do the turbines say "power output 1. Show Blueprint. My previous build had something like 28 antimatter engines, used antimatter reactors for power, was 3500 sized and got to. 3833 pollutionIt's nighttime. Switch turns ON if the accumulators drop below 30% (this should only happen if there's an attack, otherwise power stays above that level even at night) 3. Factorio version: 0. 1 CALPr - Chunk Aligned Leveled Perimeter. 2Mw, the Steam engines will (collectively) only generate 1. 0The steam engines consume up to 30 steam per second but throttle their consumption based on the need for electricity (up to 900kW). 30/s steam = 900KW. For the cost of single tank (which holds enough steam for 30 steam engines for 25 seconds), you could build like 10 boilers that produce continuously enough steam for 20 engines. 0 favorites Seablock Fusion Power 5. What I do is set up a line of coal to the boilers such that before it reaches the boilers the coal is picked up and put back into a box, from where it is put back onto the back of. Some mods change energy rules. If your machines don't get any power, make sure they're connected properly. Water flows, and boilers only heat water that flows through them. 48 * 103 = 4944 water/sec. Boilers now output steam to the sides. Finally, insert fuel. Usually this is done by placing the Boiler, placing an engine right on its output, a pipe on the other side of the engine and another engine on that pipe. Set up: 8 water pumps. 5 steam engines), but I'm finding it difficult to keep them running at 100% power. If the water is colder it will not use the turbine's full capacity. ago. Connect the side outlet for steam to the steam engine. It does, yet as soon as his demand rises, the one pipe connecting the boilers and the steam engines will be too small. 8M / 0. If that's all you need then you don't need to do anything, boilers and steam engines will only work if there is a need for them and solar power has the. The stranded accu powers an inserter arm which feeds a smart chest (a continuious looping flow of items). Boilers have a steam output on one side, from here you connect a pipe to the ends of your steam engines. Boilers only create steam when there is space for steam in their output, otherwise they pause and stop using water. It's not pointless, but it can be a bit hard to understand at first since. Originally posted by MisterSpock: (0. Steam engines don't work the same in 0. Keep the list. You can still do a line of boilers and then a line of steam engines. Steam engines work with 500°C and turbines with 165°C even though the steam engine has "max temperature of 165°C". Pole has electrical range (as blue). Attach the Steam Engine to the boilers. 2 Steam Engines, which very neatly is 1 chemical plant for a 1/14/10 running full bore 24/7 with only a tiny amount of fuel left over. However, the new boilers use a LOT more fuel than the old ones, to the point where inserters cannot keep up. Factorio. 7182 units of water to steam. Attach a red wire from power switch to an. The steam engine is the producer of the first form of power you will have. Steam engines are the easiest. I use all the coal for plastic. Steam is a gas created by heating water in a boiler or heat exchanger. roughly 1. You can send 165 deg steam into turbines, but the power they will produce will be only 33%, as they expect 500deg steam. Fel Sep 17, 2021 @ 9:01pm. If nothing is drawing power, they won't run at all. And another long delay after the pump tuns off and the last engine runs out of steam. 1:20:40 pump to boiler to steam engine. Re: Steam engine and Oil. seconds at 30L/s consumption, way more than 1 tick. They're their own power network powering only those 8 inserters and the pump. You often end up needing a couple hundred of them to power everything in the mid-game, after which fuel can become an issue. If this bar is nearly empty, you have more generators than you need. Copper cables are an intermediate product made from copper plates. They produce electricity by consuming steam, using water pumped from an offshore pump that was heated to 165°C steam with boilers or to 500°C steam with heat exchangers. #3. 16. Any type of burnable fuel can be used. Take a copper cable in your hand and click on the left half of the power switch. Heat exchangers will not produce steam until they reach 500°C. Showing 1 - 13 of 13 comments. 3. So naturally in the early game I have been using wood and coal to power my engines but as I progress I always putting solid fuel in my trains, I'm now using solid fuel in my boilers for the steam engines so coal can be used for better things like science. Share. Downloaded by: 2. Coal Power Plant. The combined efficiency of the boiler and steam engine has to be greater than 100% for the system to produce a surplus of electricity, and I don't think any combination of electric boiler and steam engine produces that. The most basic steam engine setup in Factorio consists of a single steam engine, fed by a single boiler. new steam engines will consume more steam to produce more power, instead of being insanely more efficient each step and using less steam, so instead of being able to support 20 MK3 on a line, now it's only 5, but these 5 will still produce 20% more power than 10 MK1sYoyobuae • 3 yr. 1 CALPr - Chunk Aligned Leveled Perimeter. And 1:1 on steam engines per boiler, so 50. Well let's say you have a remote uranium station, and have plenty of power from main base to. So nailing down exactly how the steam generators/engines work is paramount. TheSkiGeek. Power switches have two power connectors, one on the left and one on the right. Haven't tried it yet tho. Make Solid Fuel out of the Light Oil/Petroleum Gas and burn it in boilers if you've got too much of it. It shows 1/16th of maximum because your machines/factory only needs 1/16 of it's maximum output's worth of electricity. There are 4 equivalent setups side by side for 80 engines total. Make sure it's getting enough steam. Posted by u/topjingjing - 3 votes and 5 commentsOther than this difference, either steam engines or turbines can be used to generate power off of steam from any source. KatherineOfSky Apr 14, 2017 @ 12:22pm. Whether it's a stone furnace, a steam engine, or an oil refinery, give your little protagonist the ingredients, and. Factorio > General Discussions > Topic Details. Re: Steam Engine Setup. You can lose power if power lines are destroyed. Press the "alt" key and take a good look at the arrows. which means, if you try to support more than 20:40 boilers/engines with less offshore pumps while trying for maximum power production. the ratio is 1-20-40 1 pump 20 boilers 40 engines. Build power switch, and make sure main network and steam engines are segregated with it as the only attachmenet point. If you want to only use steam power when your accumulators are out, you'll have to find a way to either have steam in the engines while there's joules in the accumulators or a circuit that cuts a power switch when the engines aren't needed. The electrical poles that connect to the righthand steam engines in this picture are actually NOT connected to the other ones, check it out. Changelog: 0. Most of the energy in the steam is lost to under-expansion, the steam is released while still at a significant pressure. Usually it's a bit more complex, wanting to use boilers if the accumulators fall too low and that requires some circuit network to work properly. At other times my power draw is only about 1/3, and all of the steam engines are working. ago. Factorio is a game in which you build and maintain factories. It works fine, but when the threshold is reached. ago. by bobucles » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:00 pm. Since steam is a fluid, it can be stored in a storage tank. For example I will be getting 7 MW from steam and 6. These only turn on when given the "go" signal (RED >1) from A. Steam Engine: 30: 165 C: 900: 0: Steam Turbine: 60: 500 C: 5,800: 0: Condenser Turbine: 80:. 1 water pump into a straight line of 14 boilers into a straight line of 10 steam engine add fuel and make sure that they are connected to something the draws power otherwise no power will generate. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews. 100: Cost 15. Re: Boilers "Output Full". " The pump still says it's working though the pumping speed is 0. 273k members in the factorio community. In other words, a number of turbines or steam engines with steam storage can cope with much higher bursts than the same number of accumulators. To calculate how many steam engines worth of coal a fast belt can support, you may use the following formula: 8000 KW (Fuel value) * 0. To even reach the maximum available performance for steam turbines, you need to use nuclear power and heat exchangers. Real life steam engines are really bad for efficiency. You should see your satisfaction bar is full (100% of demand is being satisfied) and your capacity bar is around 50% (you are using. 2 steam engines use up exactly 1 boiler's worth of 165 C steam (30 steam per second each) to produce 900 kw each. So when a steam engine. : (. 10 boilers + 20 steam engine : 4. In Factorio, you can use Water Pumps, Boilers and Steam Engines to generate electricity. So at 1. Factorio version: 1. Or 30 steam = 900KJ. Here the contest is more even, accumulators deliver 300KW while steam engines deliver 900KW and turbines deliver 5. マスキュリン Apr 30, 2017 @ 9:18pm. The correct ratio is 2 steam engines per boiler. if you want to get the full 1200 out of that pump you will need to hook up 20 boilers feeding 40 steam engines, and be pulling 100% power demand from all 40 engines. It's only a problem with demand exceeds maximum capacity. ago. 14?-Any quirks or unobvious bits of info about the new steam engine implementation. Putting 500 deg steam into steam engines is also very inefficient, as you will get the same power output as if you used 165 deg steam, but it still consumes the same amount. Like the way the pipes are placed, parallel vs serial setups, watertanks, etc. 15 - 1. However, actual power production is based on the temperature of the steam, not. 1 pump = 1200 fluid/s, engines consume 30/s. Learn how to produce electricity with steam engines, the most basic generator in Factorio. Put one accumulator near your steam engines. 337K subscribers in the factorio community. Other than this difference, either steam engines or turbines can be used to generate power off of steam from any source. 0. 8MJ * 30pollution/min * 1min/60s) + (1s/0. Steam is also used in coal. Factorio - Factorio is a game in which you build and maintain factories. water, rather than the max temperature of the fluid currently being used. Pros - no maintenance require, its free clean energy and produces no pollution, you simply set it and forget it (mmmmm jerky, god damn im old im sure no one will get that reference) Cons - requires a crap ton of space, the amount of solar panels and capacitors required to match a steam engine is 21. Hey quick question guys, I'm still early in my first game, and my main factory has 4 steam engines, but for some reason they all have really low outputs. Offshore pumps can produce 1200 units of water per second. My solution is to put as many steam engines as possible behind the measuring apparatus. Draw a circuit wire from the accumulator to the first inserter feeding the boiler, and from there on to every next inserter. Have your engines turn off when accumulators are at a certain capacity. However, players can sometimes convince this to be an issue. 55 coal/s. There are multiple ways of getting steam to run only at night. 8MJ of fuel to produce up to 60 steam per second, throttled depending on how much steam it can output (and as a result on how much is geting consumed after filling. Boiler consumes 1. I have everything connected correctly, yet steam engine fails to produce power. Click on the pump and choose active condition to be if A < 5. Steam turbines consume up to 60 water/sec and have a maximum energy rate that accepts 500 degree water. If this is not the case for you then your steam setup is broken or you have a disconnected network. 1 pump, 13 (99% max load) - 14 (100% load) boilers, 10 engines. It must be placed on a shoreline of a body of water on the map, and connected to a pipe or other object that accepts liquids. The output is much higher, 1. As discussed on page 14 of this thread, the number aesthetics and tiny increase in energy production. 1. For example, my biggest factory would need around 3000 steam engines, which would then need 300 pumps which is just impractical. If it’s not full then the device isn’t getting enough. You could fix the con by making a seperate power network to power the pumps (and combinators if they need power). A curated list of some of the best engineering games on PC. steam-engine. Lower performance == consumes less water == boilers consume less coal. 2. Re: Optimized Steam Engine Setup Post by zOldBulldog » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:14 pm Here is my take on an optimal Steam Engine setup, a powerplant that can be used early on with just a couple boilers, later expand to become the main powerplant(s), provide spike protection via steam tanks, work as backup power if there are other better. I'm a new Factorio player! I've been stuck on the third stage of the tutorial with a weird issue.